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neo the tyrant · Aug 10, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

can a ritualist be a good mm without using the "explosive creation" "minion bomber" builds?

Abedeus · Aug 10, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

One minion bomber is already vetted on PvxWiki, but I find it too complicated. I mean, rits should use ashes and summon spirits, sometimes heal with weapon spells/normal spells. And necros have, even when nerfed, better e-management to do that.

zwei2stein · Aug 10, 2007, 11:20 AM // 11:20

Mo, not really, but explosive minion bomber build are imho better than traditional necro MM. At least when used by heroes who can micro it perfectly.

Bargamer · Aug 10, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Heroes do have trouble maintaining Enchants, so it's a tradeoff. Initially, luck will get you the Death Nova targets you need, and further practice will improve what is widely considered the weakest part of the build: the player's ability (or willingness) to mouse-select minions for Death Nova.

Without Boon of Creation and Explosive growth, how do you have the energy/PB-AOE/minion levels/minion armor to compete with the Necro's 2 minion advantage, all of which are better than the Rits, except for higher HP? Granted, the Necro focuses more on DPS than AOE.

To this day, even though I wrote a guide on it, (some critics say because of it,) people consider the Rit Minion Bomber a "gimmick" build. It's so outside what most people consider as the Rit's "job," as Abe states, yet it's surprising effective, but it's yet to be significantly nerfed or buffed. GW:EN may finally kill it off, or propel it into the limelight.

VegJed · Aug 10, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

I've been a fan of the good old explosive creation build, but I did do some experimenting with a more standard MM build. Using Attuned was Songkai and boon of creation, I had no energy problems with creating 8 Bone fiends, but I might not have been as effective as a standard necro MM. It's possible, but don't be LFG and expect anyone to accept you, even if you were better, they wouldn't believe it.

rick1027 · Aug 10, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

now ive found that a rit mm can be effective. the experience we had was in a guild group and we started out with an mm and a rit mm bomber. the mm complained he wasnt getting any minion so we zoned back and the mm changed to another charactor and the rit remained as a rit bomber. i noticed really no difference in the performance of the group so the rit was just as effective as ana mm in this group but this was a guild group that groups together a lot so we were well organized

Coloneh · Aug 10, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

I find Rit MMs more effective than necro MMs. spirit bond really makes it an entire team support build. taking 2 conditions off of all your melee characters and healing them for 100hp is pretty darn useful.

Bargamer · Aug 11, 2007, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

spirit bond really makes it an entire team support build. taking 2 conditions off of all your melee characters and healing them for 100hp is pretty darn useful.

You mean Spirit's Gift.